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01-11 12:48 AM
anyone?
Can it be done on this thread, or (probably better) do we need a new thread?
Can it be done on this thread, or (probably better) do we need a new thread?
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pappu
06-21 12:17 PM
There are several threads on the subject of multiple 485 filing. These days everyone is starting a new thread, with their question without looking at existing threads and sometimes people do not even put a title that is easy to know.
if a member who is in need of an answer to this question, can volunteer to search the forum and find the relavant posts on this topic and put their link/ copy paste on this thread, it will help everyone.
There are several members with multiple I140 approved and both husband and wife wish to apply for their I485 to be safe.
if a member who is in need of an answer to this question, can volunteer to search the forum and find the relavant posts on this topic and put their link/ copy paste on this thread, it will help everyone.
There are several members with multiple I140 approved and both husband and wife wish to apply for their I485 to be safe.
funny
09-09 03:18 PM
Keep calling guys.. Let beat NumberUSA in short time.
Just called every on on the list except the co-sponsers and steve King, Was able to get to each office and conveyed the message.
Keep calling guys..
Just called every on on the list except the co-sponsers and steve King, Was able to get to each office and conveyed the message.
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nogreen4decade
08-18 07:30 PM
Congrats!!!! Can you please tell the SR process? Do we have to tell the reason why we want SR on the case? If yes, what was your reason to open SR? Thanks!
Bhai logon... mera bhi number aagaya... I got the the approval email and status changed to Decision (for me and my wife).
Best of luck for those waiting...
FYI: I opened SR on Aug 4th... Yesterday I got response that my GC is approved (but the status online was still Initial review) and now today morning my status changed and I got approval email and an SMS too.
Given the above, I seriously think SR works. They must have checked my SR and then approved my GC.
Bhai logon... mera bhi number aagaya... I got the the approval email and status changed to Decision (for me and my wife).
Best of luck for those waiting...
FYI: I opened SR on Aug 4th... Yesterday I got response that my GC is approved (but the status online was still Initial review) and now today morning my status changed and I got approval email and an SMS too.
Given the above, I seriously think SR works. They must have checked my SR and then approved my GC.
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08-07 10:21 AM
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gc_buddy
11-12 02:55 PM
Guys,
Please don't be afraid to share your denial info. At this time, OMB is asking to remove all personally identifiable information from reciept notices. So, we don't have to worry. We will get much attention only with specific evidances. Please do not hesitate..
I have recieved Omb response since I partificipated in the campaign. But, I have not used AC21 yet. Will be contacting PD_Recap for further direction.
Please don't be afraid to share your denial info. At this time, OMB is asking to remove all personally identifiable information from reciept notices. So, we don't have to worry. We will get much attention only with specific evidances. Please do not hesitate..
I have recieved Omb response since I partificipated in the campaign. But, I have not used AC21 yet. Will be contacting PD_Recap for further direction.
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08-21 06:44 PM
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Still you save on an average $85 a year... not a bad deal
33.38 per month x 12 = 400.56 - 315 = 85.56 (savings)
315 / 12 = 26.25 per month
Still you save on an average $85 a year... not a bad deal
33.38 per month x 12 = 400.56 - 315 = 85.56 (savings)
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ras
08-08 10:06 AM
Good job analysing this particular issue. Appreciate ur patience in sharing with others.
The contents of this postings are based on what I have read from various Lawyer's website and my lawyer's suggestions.
Multiple I-485 Fillings Scenario:
1. Two I-485 for the with the same primary applicant
Case a: One I-140/I-485 Pending with another employer and one I-140/I-485 to be filed in July with the current employer.
Case b: One I-140/I-485 Pending due to substituted labor (and cannot be expedited because premium processing not available). Another I-485 to be filed based on approved I-140 (on one's own labor). Both from the same employer.
2. Two I-485 with different primary applicants (Primary on one and dependent on other)
Case a: I-140 for one is approved while other's pending
Case b: Both I-140 Approved
Case c: Both filling concurrently in June
Pros and Cons
Scenario 1, Case a: In this case there is a substantial risk that I-485 filed with first employer might lead to issues esp if I-140 is not approved. Thus is a good idea to file another one with current employer. (Pro)
Scenario 1, Case a: How can one Adjust the Status from two employer at the same time. (Con)
Scenario 1, Case b: Since first I-485 application is already filed and I-140's outcome is not known. It is a good idea to file another one as a fall back option. If one waits for the outcome of first I-140 and it is denied and then it will be too late to file another I-485 because dates might have retrogressed.
Scenario 2, Case a: One with the approved I-140 should file I-485 with other as dependent.
Scenario 2, Case b: I-485 for both is almost ensured and thus filling two will give added cover in case something happens. One might have a better priority date than other. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b: Job loss of one would still allow other with AC-21 benefits. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b:Only one of the two partners has to stick to the job description and other is free to pursue anything (including studies).
Scenario 2, Case c: Use I-140 Premium Processing on at least one application for added certainty.
Summary of Pros and Cons
Pros:
1. More flexibility as there are two applications to fall back on.
2. Only opportunity to file EAD/AP before retrogression kicks in.
3. Useful if I-140 is pending and outcome of it is unknown.
4. There are NO USCIS memos that prohibits such filling explicitly.
5. Many lawyers have recommended this as a best option.
6. It has been mentioned that USCIS cancels the second I-485 after approving the other. That makes this a hassle free option.
7. If there are issues with multiple filling one of the application can be withdrawn.
8. If later on it turns out two application is a norm and right thing to do and retrogression hits one has no one to blame but himself.
Cons:
1. Cost of two fillings (if paid by self)
2. There have been indications by lawyers that two fillings could lead to unnecessary delays and interviews.
3. Apart from delays there has been indications that USCIS might issue an
RFE and ask to choose one.
Conclusion
========
There is nothing wrong with two filings, worst case scenario could be an RFE from USCIS to choose one. Best case scenario is USCIS upon approving one cancels other. Two filings indeed give you a peace of mind and reduce risk during the process. It doesn't change the outcome (like your application will not be denied just because you have filed two). If a little delay is acceptable to you as a price you pay to reduce a bigger risk and added benefits then multiple filing is right thing to do.
The contents of this postings are based on what I have read from various Lawyer's website and my lawyer's suggestions.
Multiple I-485 Fillings Scenario:
1. Two I-485 for the with the same primary applicant
Case a: One I-140/I-485 Pending with another employer and one I-140/I-485 to be filed in July with the current employer.
Case b: One I-140/I-485 Pending due to substituted labor (and cannot be expedited because premium processing not available). Another I-485 to be filed based on approved I-140 (on one's own labor). Both from the same employer.
2. Two I-485 with different primary applicants (Primary on one and dependent on other)
Case a: I-140 for one is approved while other's pending
Case b: Both I-140 Approved
Case c: Both filling concurrently in June
Pros and Cons
Scenario 1, Case a: In this case there is a substantial risk that I-485 filed with first employer might lead to issues esp if I-140 is not approved. Thus is a good idea to file another one with current employer. (Pro)
Scenario 1, Case a: How can one Adjust the Status from two employer at the same time. (Con)
Scenario 1, Case b: Since first I-485 application is already filed and I-140's outcome is not known. It is a good idea to file another one as a fall back option. If one waits for the outcome of first I-140 and it is denied and then it will be too late to file another I-485 because dates might have retrogressed.
Scenario 2, Case a: One with the approved I-140 should file I-485 with other as dependent.
Scenario 2, Case b: I-485 for both is almost ensured and thus filling two will give added cover in case something happens. One might have a better priority date than other. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b: Job loss of one would still allow other with AC-21 benefits. (Pro)
Scenario 2, Case b:Only one of the two partners has to stick to the job description and other is free to pursue anything (including studies).
Scenario 2, Case c: Use I-140 Premium Processing on at least one application for added certainty.
Summary of Pros and Cons
Pros:
1. More flexibility as there are two applications to fall back on.
2. Only opportunity to file EAD/AP before retrogression kicks in.
3. Useful if I-140 is pending and outcome of it is unknown.
4. There are NO USCIS memos that prohibits such filling explicitly.
5. Many lawyers have recommended this as a best option.
6. It has been mentioned that USCIS cancels the second I-485 after approving the other. That makes this a hassle free option.
7. If there are issues with multiple filling one of the application can be withdrawn.
8. If later on it turns out two application is a norm and right thing to do and retrogression hits one has no one to blame but himself.
Cons:
1. Cost of two fillings (if paid by self)
2. There have been indications by lawyers that two fillings could lead to unnecessary delays and interviews.
3. Apart from delays there has been indications that USCIS might issue an
RFE and ask to choose one.
Conclusion
========
There is nothing wrong with two filings, worst case scenario could be an RFE from USCIS to choose one. Best case scenario is USCIS upon approving one cancels other. Two filings indeed give you a peace of mind and reduce risk during the process. It doesn't change the outcome (like your application will not be denied just because you have filed two). If a little delay is acceptable to you as a price you pay to reduce a bigger risk and added benefits then multiple filing is right thing to do.
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satyasaich
02-01 11:16 AM
But seems to be just laid on table and waiting for action. Specially S.1033/H.R.2330 and S.1916-1919 has a provision to exempt the immidiate family members from Employment based visa numbers which is Good.
S1438 is also some what for a tiny releif as it asks for recapture of unused visas from past years
http://www.competeamerica.org/hill/legislation/chart_reform_bill_comparison.pdf
S1438 is also some what for a tiny releif as it asks for recapture of unused visas from past years
http://www.competeamerica.org/hill/legislation/chart_reform_bill_comparison.pdf
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BharatPremi
09-24 05:47 PM
My reasoning for less than 3k visas for EB3 I
Assume EB3 I has 2800 available per year
2800/12 = 233.33 per month.
The spread sheet shows that there are 135 pending with PD of March 01 or less. Which is less than 233 the PD did not cross April because there are 452 applications in april. A PD of April makes sense. Using calculation the PD will be July 2001 in Dec.
if you assume 8080 visas per year then there will be 673 visas availble per month and the PD should have crossed to May 2001 because the total pending 485s on May 1st are 587. If we go with your assumption then the PD in December will be at Jan 2002...I
You brought a good point to churn on our heads but remember DOS decides the dates not the USCIS and DOS and USCIS do not have any interlinking to set Dates in a bulletin.
How DOS decides the dates in each bulletin is also a mysterious and unknown area.
Assume EB3 I has 2800 available per year
2800/12 = 233.33 per month.
The spread sheet shows that there are 135 pending with PD of March 01 or less. Which is less than 233 the PD did not cross April because there are 452 applications in april. A PD of April makes sense. Using calculation the PD will be July 2001 in Dec.
if you assume 8080 visas per year then there will be 673 visas availble per month and the PD should have crossed to May 2001 because the total pending 485s on May 1st are 587. If we go with your assumption then the PD in December will be at Jan 2002...I
You brought a good point to churn on our heads but remember DOS decides the dates not the USCIS and DOS and USCIS do not have any interlinking to set Dates in a bulletin.
How DOS decides the dates in each bulletin is also a mysterious and unknown area.
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realizeit
03-29 11:48 AM
There are two waves of movement going to happen for EB2 this year. One starting in May and the other starting in July.
The 12000 unused visa numbers from EB1 is not the total for the year 2011. It is almost certain that, this is the spillover from the first 2 quarters of 2011. Along with this, there are some numbers from EB2 ROW as well. The spillover will only get applied to all those countries which are retrogressed.
12000 visa numbers would move mathematically the dates to somewhere in Sept 2006 for India and China Eb2. The porting from EB3 to EB2 is still a factor, but that won't exceed more then 1500 (which are ready to be assigned visa).
In order to utilize these 12000 visa numbers, USCIS may possibly consider 15000 applicants so that they will get 12000 approvable, background check free and non-delayed cases.
So, i think for EB2 the dates could move to either Oct/Nov/Dec of 2006.
In July, the next wave of spill over could move the dates further into 2007.
The 12000 unused visa numbers from EB1 is not the total for the year 2011. It is almost certain that, this is the spillover from the first 2 quarters of 2011. Along with this, there are some numbers from EB2 ROW as well. The spillover will only get applied to all those countries which are retrogressed.
12000 visa numbers would move mathematically the dates to somewhere in Sept 2006 for India and China Eb2. The porting from EB3 to EB2 is still a factor, but that won't exceed more then 1500 (which are ready to be assigned visa).
In order to utilize these 12000 visa numbers, USCIS may possibly consider 15000 applicants so that they will get 12000 approvable, background check free and non-delayed cases.
So, i think for EB2 the dates could move to either Oct/Nov/Dec of 2006.
In July, the next wave of spill over could move the dates further into 2007.
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SunnySurya
08-07 02:17 PM
Of course you can do leagally, the GC is for the fututre job. We were able to do away with labor sub and we can do the same here.
Though, it is unfair one can not do legally, as long as USCIS recoconoze the the job offered at desi consulting companies are genuine and real "fulltime permanant job". They may be gaming the system..it is their model of bussiness to make money..and it is well supported by lawyers, lobbyists and ofcourse benefit seeking employees. You cant break this strong wall before the uscis. You should have witnessed how much resistance they created when DOL/USCIS abolished labor subsitution. In nut shell, if you close one loophole, they will find another. You are in wrong forum..
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rodnyb
03-31 08:21 PM
Yes, I mean EB5. Another not, DOS/CIS waited till now as it takes some months to get a trend, as it seems CIS is cracking down on EB1C since later last year, and it took some time to see EB1 usage fall off and is plateauing now.
I wish 12K is for 6 months only, and that 24K total this year will surely clear all pre-07/2007 EB2 I/C. However, it seems as unlikely, I looked at historic EB1 approvals on DOS statistics page, EB1 has about 40K quota, their usage
2002 16K
2003 14K
2004 18K
2005 21K
2006 24K
2007 30K
2008 39K
2009 42K
2010 41K
So even if we think all surge after 2006 is due to abuse use of EB1C of india bodyshops, EB1 will still use about 24K, which left about 16K for EB2. I am sure those bodyshop ppl will apply under EB2 now, and I hate to say, but EB2 after 07/2007 seems still a daunting task, only visa recapture will help.
Do you mean 8K from EB5?
I wish 12K is for 6 months only, and that 24K total this year will surely clear all pre-07/2007 EB2 I/C. However, it seems as unlikely, I looked at historic EB1 approvals on DOS statistics page, EB1 has about 40K quota, their usage
2002 16K
2003 14K
2004 18K
2005 21K
2006 24K
2007 30K
2008 39K
2009 42K
2010 41K
So even if we think all surge after 2006 is due to abuse use of EB1C of india bodyshops, EB1 will still use about 24K, which left about 16K for EB2. I am sure those bodyshop ppl will apply under EB2 now, and I hate to say, but EB2 after 07/2007 seems still a daunting task, only visa recapture will help.
Do you mean 8K from EB5?
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01-24 02:07 PM
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06-29 05:15 PM
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apt29
08-12 02:08 PM
Mine seems to be few of last applications entered in system during July 07 visa bulletin fiasco(rather fiesta). My Notice date 10/17. I have not seen July filer notice date, later than this...
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aquarianf
06-15 12:32 PM
Normally how long the medicals are valid, I have applied my 485 in the past with medicals that are 7 month old
Normally valid for 1 year but according to my CS these days USCIS is very strict about tb test so they they recommond it to be in within 6 month time frame.
Normally valid for 1 year but according to my CS these days USCIS is very strict about tb test so they they recommond it to be in within 6 month time frame.
anura
04-05 04:06 PM
I am not sure what AILA is up to. One Mr. Oppenheim already told them that they can start moving EB2I dates in May because there may be unused EB1s. If I am right, that is all he is told them. AILA is just looking to make the best of the statement. What are the ways O's statements can be interpreted to make a profit out of it. There is no reason for AILA to reiterate the statement now. AFter AILS is already told everyone what O told them.
AILA is now just attached a note to say that if you push PD too much, then you will get too much I-485s than you can handle. Looks almost like AILA is trying to advise the Visa Office. Well that is what lobbyists do.
AILA is now just attached a note to say that if you push PD too much, then you will get too much I-485s than you can handle. Looks almost like AILA is trying to advise the Visa Office. Well that is what lobbyists do.
indianabacklog
01-27 08:26 PM
Just a couple of comments about Heathrow. The mainland of Britain was plagued with the IRA bombing it periodically for decades which forced them to be diligent about security long before the USA knew what terrorism was. Being security conscious has become a way of life on that little island in the North Sea. Just try finding a garbage can on a railway station platform? There are none so the IRA could not plant bombs in them.
Now about the staff at Heathrow. Surely anyone with eyes that work can see most of them are not British at all but immigrants of some variety or another. A true Brit is a very friendly individual. The invasion of their island during the past fifty years has changed the face of the entire community, not all for the better that is for certain.
And finally, transit visas etc. If they are needed and that is the rule and you cannot find a different route then it is something that has be lived with. The US had them and still has them for certain nationalities, the UK is certainly not on its own. I have been living in the US for almost a decade now and have been stung by their immigration rules as all of the contributors to this forum probably have but we chose to come here so have to put up with the system.
We all have choices so if you do not want to get transit visas just choose a route that precludes the need for one. Ten pages bad mouthing the UK is not helping anyone it is just antagonizing those of us who originated there.
Just because the majority of immigration voice are Indian it is certainly not all and I think that gets missed on so many occasions. We are in the midst of the US immigration system together, or so I thought.
Every country has its own rules, some will be in our favor some will not but if we choose to go there we have to live by them. It is entirely NOT appropriate to expect countries we visit to bow to us on any level!!!!!!!
Now about the staff at Heathrow. Surely anyone with eyes that work can see most of them are not British at all but immigrants of some variety or another. A true Brit is a very friendly individual. The invasion of their island during the past fifty years has changed the face of the entire community, not all for the better that is for certain.
And finally, transit visas etc. If they are needed and that is the rule and you cannot find a different route then it is something that has be lived with. The US had them and still has them for certain nationalities, the UK is certainly not on its own. I have been living in the US for almost a decade now and have been stung by their immigration rules as all of the contributors to this forum probably have but we chose to come here so have to put up with the system.
We all have choices so if you do not want to get transit visas just choose a route that precludes the need for one. Ten pages bad mouthing the UK is not helping anyone it is just antagonizing those of us who originated there.
Just because the majority of immigration voice are Indian it is certainly not all and I think that gets missed on so many occasions. We are in the midst of the US immigration system together, or so I thought.
Every country has its own rules, some will be in our favor some will not but if we choose to go there we have to live by them. It is entirely NOT appropriate to expect countries we visit to bow to us on any level!!!!!!!
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